cissado 84.6 45.2Premium Member join:2008-01-14 Clifton, NJ 1 edit | 2010-Jan-7 12:03 pm Can I bypass installer's code in security system?I don't actually want to do it, I was thinking of hiring a pro to fix/finish my home security system. My cousin who is way too busy to come and finish the job, started it, and i added a few contacts, keypads, and sensors to the system. I want to label them and tie them into the existing working system. Everything additional, such as basement window contacts, glass sensors, shed contacts/sensors, keypads, etc.. are wired and connected and at the panel in the closet. The panel is where they need to be hooked up and finished. I placed the EOL resistors at the keypads while connecting them. With a little research, I may even be able to tackle that, but i still would need to label some stuff, so I'll just leave it to someone else. It is a Gemini/Napco product. Can an outside contractor come in and do that or do I need the code? I am not on central station yet, but may want to activate that in the future. Yes, I can call my cousin, yet again, and ask a few questions, but I'd rather not. He's a contractor, good guy, but just too busy. |
Killa200 Premium Member join:2005-12-02 TN | 2010-Jan-7 12:11 pm If its not on a central system and your cousin installed it all the first round, then he probably also has the installer code for the panel. You can ask him for it since he is busy... but i would probably let him do it. There is ALOT of things to configure for each added device besides just naming them and correctly attaching them to the appropriate contact. They need to be placed in the correct zone and the panel needs to know what to do once it sees a signal from the device (whatever that may be depending on the device). Not saying you can't handle all that, just saying that if you haven't before, you may not want to get your feet wet on a working system. Resetting the installer code could be as simple as resetting the panel (you may lose your entire current setup though)... or if it is like the DMP i have at home, if you lose that code it has to be sent in to be reset, which costs a pretty penny. |
84.6 45.2 | 2010-Jan-7 1:15 pm I'm a little bummed about it. It's been a couple of years now that I've wanted it done. Thanks for the reply. That's what happens when 'family' gets involved, right? lol I used to work for him doing electrical work. He's an Electrician. I ran and connected everything at their points, and he connected and programmed it at the panel when I was done. |
Bobcat79 Premium Member join:2001-02-04 | 2010-Jan-7 1:27 pm He may have left it at the default code. Also, check the installation manual for methods to reset the code. |
jimpalmer4 join:2005-03-08 11111 | 2010-Jan-9 12:09 am I seriously doubt he changed the installer code. Same thing happened to me when my alarm was installed. Guy never came back to really finish up, wasn't alot left to do anyway, so I decided to do it myself and had no problems configuring the system with the default code. |
Zatochi Premium Member join:2004-01-17 Bossier City, LA | 2010-Jan-16 9:37 am I work for a large electronic security firm and might be able to help. What model Gemini/Napco control panel is it? That's the box in the closet. It would also help to know which model/part# the keypads are. EOL at the keypads? Doesn't sound right unless the keypads have zone expansion built it. Keypads by themselves do not require EOL resistors. |
CKizer Premium Member join:2003-01-29 Tijeras, NM | 2010-Jan-16 1:00 pm I know that Ademco panels will allow you to disconnect the battery, drop power, then power it up and key in a sequence within a limited time that will cause it to display the installer/programming/user codes. Yours may have a similar feature - but I would bet the installer code is still at factory default. |
84.6 45.2 | 2010-Jan-16 4:43 pm said by Zatochi: »www.napcosecurity.com/ge ··· 1ca.html I have the 'Ae2' from those two choices.I work for a large electronic security firm and might be able to help. What model Gemini/Napco control panel is it? That's the box in the closet. It would also help to know which model/part# the keypads are. EOL at the keypads? Doesn't sound right unless the keypads have zone expansion built it. Keypads by themselves do not require EOL resistors. and this panel... »www.napcosecurity.com/ge ··· 200.html When I just opened the panel, it said 'master security code...XXX-XXX' right in the center of the box. lol Never noticed that before. Thanks for the replies. |
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ADT's corporate installer code is regarded as a trade secret. While various websites have published the code, the surer way to get into a system is the 'backdoor' method. The process of getting into installer programming via the backdoor is different depending on which system you own.
Please read the following guide carefully. It will help you determine whether you can reset your ADT alarm system, even if you do not have the installer code.
- Identify your system. ADT nearly always uses Honeywell/ADEMCO products when they install in home. Sometimes, however, they use DSC, GE/Interlogix, 2GIG, or another major brand. If your system is a Honeywell or ADEMCO and is wired, then look at the circuit board in the beige box. There will be a half inch by half inch PROM chip on it. It should look something like this:
If you see a long rectangular PROM instead of this small, square one, or if your PROM says Safewatch Pro 2000, then you likely have a VISTA 20SE. A Safewatch Pro 3000, however, corresponds with the Honeywell/ADEMCO Vista 20P. If you have a 20SE, or any of the non-Honeywell panels mentioned above, we recommend sending an email with a picture of the system to support@alarmgrid.com or calling our main phone number (888-818-7728). This is for the commonly installed wired panels. If you have an all-in-one wireless system, such as the L7000, L3000, or the new Lyric, then go ahead and skip to step 3. If you have a Safewatch Pro 3000, 20P or any other Honeywell panel, then proceed to step 2. - Identify your communicator. If your system has been monitored over traditional phone line, and you are looking to have the same setup going forward, then you're ready to go. You probably don't need to add much more to your system. There are a lot of things you'll miss out on, like the ability to get text and email alerts, or the ability to see your system activity on your phone and computer. But not everybody wants that. If you do have a communicator, we can help you figure out what you need to do next. ADT often uses proprietary communicators. These communicators can usually be identified by the logo they print on the item. Sometimes, however, they use a plain old Honeywell communicator. If ADT installed a Honeywell communicator such as the iGSMV4G, GSMV4G, GSMX4G, or 7847i, then go ahead and proceed to the next step.
If you have a proprietary communicator, then in order to get your system monitored, you will need to get a new system communicator. We recommend the iGSMV4G. This will give you the most options. However, if you just want internet-only communication, the 7847i may work fine for you. Ultimately, the iGSMV4G costs only a little bit more, which we think is worth the benefit. If you have a Safewatch Pro 3000 or if your system's got a PROM chip with the letters WA20P on it, but indicates a revision smaller than 9.12, then you will probably want to change out the PROM chip. - Backdoor into the system. Honeywell systems are simple to backdoor into. We have a simple guide on how to backdoor into your VISTA system as well as a video.
For those who are looking for instructions on how to reset a wireless adt alarm panel, we have other guides that will instruct you on backdooring into them: L5100, L5200, L5210, L7000 and Lyric. In the case of both VISTAs and Lyrics, there is a way to permanently lock an end user out of programming. If this has been done to your panel, you will have to either have the old provider unlock the panel or do a full panel replacement. - Reset the master code. You will know as soon as you go through the guide. Once you have entered the system's programming through the back door, changing your ADT codes couldn't be simpler. Change the installer codes and ADT master codes to whatever you would like. Resetting the Master code on a Lyric is easy and is basically the same process as any of the LYNX Touch panels. Watching this should give you the steps necessary to make the changes to your L5210 or L7000.
Resetting the master code on a VISTA panel is no more difficult, though it will be much more simple if you have a alphanumeric programming keypad like the 6160. - Change the installer code. The installer code is the code used to get back to the programming menu screen. The default on a Honeywell system is 4112. For most users looking to get things in working order, it will be easiest to simply set the system to 4112 for the time being. For Lyric's or the LYNX Touch panels, below is how you can change the installer code from installer programming.
The VISTAs, however, are slightly different. This is a video explaining the button presses for programming a new installer code. on these systems.
Following this guide will get your ADT system up and running so that you can be monitored by any other company. You do not need the ADT installer code to actually modify the system, and following these steps will not hurt the programming in the panel. Even replacing the PROM should preserve all programming. If you have any questions about how to reset your ADT alarm panel, feel free to contact us calling the number above or emailing support@alarmgrid.com
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